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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:32 pm 
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Hi all,

Dave was kind enough to hook us up with a section in the Trade Forum - thank you!

Think the best thing to do to kick things off is to start with a discount offer on our current best selling product. Will get some time over the next week or so to add some more details about our company and the products we make.

3M™ DI-NOC™ Carbon Fibre Vinyl is a high end vinyl that looks so much like genuine carbon fibre it is often very difficult to tell it apart from the real thing. Unlike cheaper carbon fibre vinyls it has a 3D texture that reflects light from different angles just as real carbon would and giving the look of expensive dry carbon fibre without the cost - and that's not even the best bit.

3M™ DI-NOC™ has tiny air channels on the adhesive side which allow air to escape as you apply it to prevent air bubbles, 3M call this Comply™ technology. The vinyl can be installed using the dry application method - no messing about with water and when gently heated it becomes pliable allowing installation on complex curves such as on car bumpers and interior trim. If you wrinkle it while installing simply heat it and it will return to it's original shape.

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You can purchase sheets of 3M Carbon Vinyl in our online store. Discount voucher code is: CARBONDISCOUNT and gets you 5% off the cost - doesn't see, like a lot but you already get free shipping to mainland UK and we're confident you won't find this cheaper anywhere else. If you're in Southern Ireland give us a shout and we'll sort something on shipping cost as the website will try to apply a courier rate to your order and it's only fair that you get cheaper shipping as well.

You can read more about 3M Di-Noc Carbon Fibre Vinyl on our Blog and the Fitting Instructions and FAQs are on our website.

Some of 3M's Di-Noc Carbon fibre photos are on our blog. And you can check out some other uses for the 3M vinyl such as Carbon Fibre Laptop Skins.


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The photo above shows the 3M carbon fibre vinyl alongside a genuine carbon fibre Asus laptop. Aside from the laptop having a straight weave pattern and the vinyl a cross weave can you really tell any dfference?

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Carbon Fibre Vinyl Wrap on Mitsubishi Evo Door Handle

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Car interior panels wrapped with Carbon Fibre Vinyl

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:37 am 
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Nice to have you on board 8)
There's been quite a buzz about the di-noc cf recently, seems to be getting good reviews all round.
Do you know if it can be used for a headlight insert? Or would there be issues with the heat from the bulbs?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:47 am 
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Do you know if it can be used for a headlight insert? Or would there be issues with the heat from the bulbs?

The Di-Noc CF has a pretty good temperature resistance - can't remember exactly off the top of my head but it could be as much as 70 degrees C. Take a look at the official 3M Di-Noc Datasheet.

General rule is if the area you are applying to is too hot to touch it'll be too hot for the vinyl to last on. I expect that traditional bulbs may be too hot depending on how close they are to the vinyl and may eventually discolour it. HIDs may be ok though if they run cooler than regular filament bulbs. You'd need to check this as I've not touched an HID bulb when it's running so I may be completely wrong that it would be cooler.

Other consideration is that UV light affects the longevity of vinyl ie. in the case of regular gloss vinyl it'll fade more quickly in direct sunlight. Again, not sure if a car bulb emits UV, I didn't pay that much attention in Physics class, but should be easy enough to find out.

Our suppliers haven't had too much feedback on this product yet, I guess it's still pretty new to market. They did mention that there is a lot of chat about Di-Noc requiring primer / application fluid when installing. They confirmed that it should not be used in vehicle applications, it's main use is on permanent joins on indoor use and on substrates with lower adhesion properties like plasterboard.

Hope that helps some.

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It does, cheers for taking the time to reply too 8)

I've been wanting to try it on the headlights and rear clusters, worst that can happen is it doesn't work and I have to take it off again, it's cheap enough to take a gamble on.

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Have to admit - This stuff actually looks quite awesome for the price of it. Im really considering getting some for my laptop ( like in your example). Awesome work guys :)

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i was wondering how my car would look with this on the roof


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:09 pm 
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i was wondering how my car would look with this on the roof

Depends on the colour of the car but it should look pretty hot. Cars like a white M3 or an orange Focus ST would look immense with this on the roof but really you probably can't go wrong as the vinyl is pretty much black and black goes with pretty much anything.

You do need to consider other modifications to your car and if it ties in with those then go for it.

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Free Sample of 3M Di-Noc Carbon Fibre Vinyl on our website to get a look at the colour / texture and get a feel for it.

Only photo I have to hand with this stuff on a car roof is 3Ms own promo photo and it's not the best as you can't see the carbon weave very well. It's on one of the first two posts on the Underground Graphics Blog if you scroll down. Or if you email chris@undergroundgraphics I can send a photo of this on a Bentley bonnet and boot. It's not our job hence why I'm not posting the photos publicly in case someone thinks we're trying to take credit for the work.

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The effort in the sales pitch is quite admirable, much respect for taking the time to reply.

However it'll never look like real carbon, and if it fools someone that it is the real deal then i suggest they make an appointment at the opticians. I can see why its your best selling product though, most people in this game would sacrifice the knowing they didn't cut corners on their car, when theres a cheap option that looks a bit like they didn't.

Good luck with it though, would be good to see some more offers on other products/services you can offer us.

Oh and you might want to change the copied/pasted sales text in your first post concerning the shipping. Since we are neither in mainland UK or Southern Ireland. :? :think:

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Oh and you might want to change the copied/pasted sales text in your first post concerning the shipping. Since we are neither in mainland UK or Southern Ireland.

Whilst some of the text in my first is a copy/paste effort I did try to personalise it to your website by recognising that the North and South are different. My bad though, it was late at night when I wrote it and I got it wrong when I wrote Mainland UK. Will ammend shortly. Also, I did assume that there was fair chance that the website takes visitors who happen to be located in the South hence why I added the section about contacting us to get a better shipping rate than the our shopping cart offers.

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if it fools someone that it is the real deal then i suggest they make an appointment at the opticians.

I guess Specsavers are gonna be busy then ;p I've watched people look at parts wrapped with this stuff and plenty of them need to be told that it's just vinyl and that includes a mate who works in the aerospace industry and has true carbon parts on his own car! Granted if he'd looked more closely or touched it he'd know but it's a damn good imitation product for those like me who can't afford to shop at Reverie or who like to try and work on their own car rather than pay someone else to modify it for them.

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would be good to see some more offers on other products/services you can offer us

What would you like to see and I'll let you know what we can do.

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Forgot about this thread. Looks like i was having a moan just for the sake of it in my last post, wasn't what i intented lol, must have been in a bad mood when i made it :oops:

Although firstly, i know you aren't from here but if you know anything of our country's history then you might also know that differentiating (and even moreso combining) the Republic or Ireland and Northern Ireland for any reason can be a touchy subject with a lot of people so usually best to avoid any arguments and get it right first time with regardss to where we are and where we aren't ;) Not that many people care so much these days about it, however worth bearing in mind in case anyone was to take offence. Pretty easy going guys here anyway, probably just me being pedantic as per usual lol :wall:

Without wanting to enter into an argument about the carbon vinyl, all i'll say that if your mate with the aerospace background is scratching his head over it, then i guess Specsavers isn't the answer afterall. Perhaps an enquiry needs to be made to see if the NHS still prescribes those thick-lensed spectacles to families on low incomes. Not sure that they do though, last i heard they had been phased out; allegedly partly due to the increase in bullying of schoolchildren whose parents forced them to wear such ghastly head ornaments in the 1980's. Worked well though to be fair, allegedly of course...

As for what else you offer, i was wondering what else you do i guess? Are you an automotive graphics/vinyl business? Is there any areas that you have expertise that you can tell us about (apart from carbon vinyl of course ;) )? I'm intrigued by your signature picture, is there a reason behind it? Or is it for promoting this carbon vinyl stuff? :?

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ffs... that looks like i just had another long moan :wall: Must be getting old (Jimbob, shush..)

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Think I'll keep my head down and just talk about stickers before my ignorance shows through even more.

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Without wanting to enter into an argument about the carbon vinyl

Each to their own works for me. There's some stuff we are asked for that really isn't to my taste [like the Punto with the pink tribal flames] but if the customer is happy that's the main thing.

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then i guess Specsavers isn't the answer afterall

Haha, my girl works for Specsavers. I'll see if she can get some of those 80s efforts for my mate. Makes you think about flying though, chances are you'll take a ride in a plane one day that he's done the engine on.

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I'm intrigued by your signature picture, is there a reason behind it? Or is it for promoting this carbon vinyl stuff?

It's my car in the photo so I guess I'm mixing business with personal stuff but the main reason for it is to demonstrate that the company is into cars and has a fair idea about supplying decals to that market.

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Are you an automotive graphics/vinyl business?

Main market we deal in is car stuff - street cars, bit of track and rally stuff, the odd drift car and a few show cars. Also do basic signage and window graphics now and again and PVC Outdoor Banners. We do club web address stickers for a few forums as well. A few of the cars we've worked on have been magazine featured, one in Fast and Modified while that was about and one in Max Power but that was a few years ago now.

The carbon stuff is going crazy just now hence why we started out with a post about that. We did a replica of a Paris-Dakar Pajero recently.

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I didn't realise that was your own car bud, very nice 8) I've got that issue of Banzai and check it out frequently (toilet reading material :mrgreen: ) as it's got Paul Whiffin's Supra in it too.

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I didn't realise that was your own car bud, very nice

I think it will be if I ever finish it. The Supra in that issue is awesome, shows how much work I still got to do to the GTO! Damn, I wanna go driving now.

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